is space travel real?

lindi13 · Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2004 9:31 pm Post subject: is space travel real?

a friend of mine says that space travel (moon landing to be exact) is rubbish. i'm not sure but he seems sure that with no evidence it's probably all made up. what do you think?
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skyraider · Flight Steward Joined: 24 Apr 2004 Posts: 42 55 ants

I watched the show on the History Channel about the alleged "fake" Moon landing, and I concluded that it was not a farce.

PeterW · Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2005 10:52 pm Post subject:

Well, crank is a pro-conspiracy site, and the balance can be found at Rockets and Space Technology.

Mark Goll said "I generally do not believe in government conspiracies, because that would be giving government the credit for being smart enough to handle a conspiracy."

However, space travel is happening now, just think of the ISS and continual visits to keep it running.
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gonenorth · Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 6:45 pm Post subject:

Of course it was real. The pictures (and comms traffic) came from orbit (and later, transorbit, and then the moon). There where umpteen radio-telescopes from various countries that verified this in real-time. In theory, the Apollo capsules might never have landed on the moon, and could have sent back faked radio messages from Lunar orbit. However, they could NOT have sent back faked (e.g. pre-recorded) video footage. Video wasn't invented then. Film was, but to beam back those images would have required a TeleCine machine weighing several hundred kilograms - and requiring a power supply beyond the capabilities of the spaceship. (I'm an ex-BBC engineer).

The landings happened as depicted. The end.
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PeterW · Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 7:50 pm Post subject:

Besides, no one would have dreamed up the little gem of a film call The Dish if there was not a true story behind it. I plumb for real, but then some would still argue that the world is flat - and don't no one dare post an 'isn't it' response to this! Wink

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Jochen · Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 7:54 am Post subject:

gonenorth · Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 4:32 pm Post subject:

Hmmmmm...... I really doubt they could have created a prototype video machine and flown it to lunar orbit. The only other possibility might have been that they beamed faked TV signals from Earth to the spaceship, which could have then relayed them back to earth in real time. I'm not sure how well that would have worked - I don't think we had tight-beam microwave in those days, and a normal TV transmission would have side-lobes that might have been detected from earth.

My main reason for disbelieving the conspiracy theories is that neither the US government, US military, or NASA would be capable of sustaining such a secret for so long. It would have taken oodles of people to make it work, and ONE of them would have talked by now.
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Trev · Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 2:12 pm Post subject:

The thing is, if you're going to all that trouble of getting the rocket into space to receive the pics from a studio, then beam the pics back, then go through all the problems of the splashdown at the end without the plane they came out of being noticed, then as mentioned keeping everyone quiet for years....it's much simpler just to land on the darned thing and save yourself all the trouble. Smile

Of course you could argue that Apollo 13 was a publicity stunt and they too didn't actually go into space, but again it's an awful lot of hassle to go to. And if it was, what the heck were they doing with all the money?

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Apollo 11

Launched: 16 July 1969 UT 13:32:00 (09:32:00 a.m. EDT)
Landed on Moon: 20 July 1969 UT 20:17:40 (04:17:40 p.m. EDT)
Landing Site: Mare Tranquillitatis - Sea of Tranquility (0.67 N, 23.47 E)
Returned to Earth: 24 July 1969 UT 16:50:35 (12:50:35 p.m. EDT)

Neil A. Armstrong, commander
Michael Collins, command module pilot
Edwin E. Aldrin, Jr., lunar module pilot

lightningbob · Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 12:32 am Post subject: Fake

Hmmmmmm maybe the moon landing was real .........BUT EVERYTHING ELSE WAS FAKED!!! Exclamation

markoj · Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 3:28 pm Post subject:

How do you mean Moon landing is real but everything else fake? If they landed they landed, what is there to be fake? Why would they land and fake walking when they CAN walk Very Happy

lightningbob · Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 9:28 pm Post subject:

No No No I mean landing on the moon and walking on the moon was real ....but getting there WAS FAKED!!!! ....after all getting into orbit is the most difficult part of the trip. So we fake that and do the easier (in hind site) parts!! Laughing

Visit Rome · Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 8:58 am Post subject:

lightningbob · Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 6:36 pm Post subject:

Actualy the main reason those "mysteries" remain is because people love them and WANT to believe in them. Like Bigfoot, the abomnibable snow man and the Lock Ness monster there is so little evidence to support thes beliefs and when one is dismissed I see it again as if it were never refuted. case in point. The flag was in an airless enviroment yes but it was held staight with one wire at the top. Any vibrations from say planting the pole in the ground would cause the flag to fluctuate and the lack of air to stop would increase the time it did so. And what about JFK and Area 51? Other than being popular goverment cover up theories ( and both weak area 51 especially) I will end with one thought. A highly advanced civilation travels BILLIONS of miles in a small craft and has failure right next to us??? That's incredibly bad luck considering the size of .....THE GALAXY!!! Odds of randomly hitting a target that small are ...well astrnomical. Then on top of that crashing at a super secret air base none the less. Your more likely to jump out of a window in NY and land on an operatimg table in France to get that heart replacment surgery you despertly need (and just found out about one minute ago) and find the surgeon is you long lost brother from 35 years ago and the nurse is the twin of your dearly departed wife (twin ! You didn't know she had a twin!) and she imeadetly falls in love with you.

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