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ad343 Flight Steward

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Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 12:35 am Post subject: Mexico Travel Safety Info |
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What are some of the crimes that you should be aware of?
For starters there are currently drug wars involving rivalry drug dealers and Mexican police and military officials. Although this is not occurring throughout the country, travelers to border towns should be careful.
There are also a significant number of street crimes. These include pick pocketing, purse snatching, and armed robberies against tourists. Many of these crimes are perpetrated against foreigners using public transportation.
Hotel room thefts are also quiet common in Mexico. For this reason tourists should be sure to place their passports and valuables inside safes in the room. Also, doors should remain closed and locked at all times, even when you are in the room.
Foreigners using ATM machines are often approached by robbers and thieves who force victims to withdraw large amounts of cash and surrender it.
Women traveling alone should use extreme caution. There have been numerous incidents of lone female being sexually assaulted.
Kidnapping is yet another crime that is prevalent through Mexico. Most victims are either foreigners or wealthy Mexican nationals.
Carjacking occurs often against foreigners driving expensive rental cars. Therefore, if visiting, you should practice sound vehicle security and drive with the windows up and doors locked at all times.
Backpackers in Mexico often become victims of robberies after hiking alone on trails and backcountry locations.
A different crime that travelers may see in Mexico that they may not be familiar with is extortion by police officials. Since corruption is so widespread, many police officers will target foreigners and falsely accuse them of committing a crime in order to get them to pay a “fine” rather than be officially charged. Travelers should refrain from paying these corrupt police officers and inform their embassy or consulate about the incident.
These are just a few of the crimes that travelers to Mexico should be aware of. If you are planning to visit, I encourage you to please be careful. _________________ Al |
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Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 2:26 pm Post subject: |
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I'd heard that the towns along the US border are a bit dodgey, because of the drug trafficking gangs, but you make it sound like the whole country is a hive of scum and villainy; Is it really that bad?
I have an american friend who's worked in Mexico for years and from everything he's ever told me it sounds like a great place, maybe not as safe as your average European or US city, but not too bad either, so long as one is a bit careful & does the research before travelling. *shrug* _________________ car hire Italy - car hire France - car hire Spain |
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ad343 Flight Steward

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Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 10:13 pm Post subject: |
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Oh no, by all means I don't mean to make Mexico sound as dangerous as Iraq or anything. On the other hand, don't be fooled by all the beautiful brochures in the travel agencies either.
But I think you nailed it on the head by saying that as long as travelers use basic safety precautions they will be ok. This is true and this is the point I meant to get across.
I encourge travelers to visit Mexico. Heck, I've been there 5 times and would return. I just want travelers to be safe, stop dropping their guard abroad, and getting vicitimized. _________________ Al |
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ad343 Flight Steward

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Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 2:19 pm Post subject: |
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| paul wrote: | | Isn't this true of most places frequented by tourists? |
You would think so right? You would think it's a simple concept to understand, right?
Well, for it to be so simple I'm not sure why travelers keep making the same mistakes to get themselves in trouble.
I'm not sure why people fight with the concept that the world can be a dangerous place. Most of the travel safety information I've posted here immediately gets responses like, "well it's not that bad" or "can't this happen anywhere".
It's like people want to ignore the fact that their favorite travel spots can be dangerous. I don't see myself as a pessimist I just want to point out the other side of traveling. The side that you won't see in some travel brochure. The side that I see on a daily basis from being an expat.
I don't mean to discourge people from traveling. I want people to travel. However, I want them to be safe. If these concepts are so "simple" why don't travelers heed and use them? _________________ Al |
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paul Captain


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Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 10:05 pm Post subject: |
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If I recall from another thread, though, you believe that every hotel - regardless of where in the world it is - should have a sufficient security presence that is significant enough to prevent (or at least deter) a terrorist attack such as the Mumbai one. I don't believe this is remotely necessary for many hotels. _________________ UK Hotels - UK Selfcatering - UK B&Bs - UK Attractions
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ad343 Flight Steward

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Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2009 12:53 am Post subject: |
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| paul wrote: | | If I recall from another thread, though, you believe that every hotel - regardless of where in the world it is - should have a sufficient security presence that is significant enough to prevent (or at least deter) a terrorist attack such as the Mumbai one. I don't believe this is remotely necessary for many hotels. |
Yep, that's correct. Every hotel "should" have sufficient security. If that's not possible (i.e., financial issues), I understand. One must do what one can do.
But for a hotel to use your approach (i.e., regardless of what security measures are in place a terrorist attack will happen, so let's do nothing) is ridiculous, unsafe, and irresponsible. _________________ Al |
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Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2009 10:35 am Post subject: |
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I suppose (and hope) you're joking ad343.
First of all : all the comment you make about visiting Mexico : yes, I suppose most of the things you describe have happened and will happen again in the future, but if you're that scared of them, just stay at home and hope nobody with bad intentions will enter it...
I mean : you have to be careful when traveling obviously, but starting your journey in a paranoiac way is not the right way either
The same goes for the hotel security you seem to want. Ofcourse this is not possible in 99.5 % (or more) hotels in the world - how would you organize that ? And if you make ALL the hotels terrorist-proof ? What will you do with the shopping malls ? The restaurants ? The big festivities ?
Just realize that the world is not a perfect place and that you have to be careful in what you do, but don't let that lead you to being scared all the time in all places ! |
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ad343 Flight Steward

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Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2009 1:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Ginirover wrote: | | I suppose (and hope) you're joking ad343. |
Ginirover, joking about what? Trying to keep people safe? I mean this forum is about sharing travel ideas right? Furthermore, this section of the forum is about Health and SAFETY, right?
| Ginirover wrote: | | First of all : all the comment you make about visiting Mexico : yes, I suppose most of the things you describe have happened and will happen again in the future, but if you're that scared of them, just stay at home and hope nobody with bad intentions will enter it... |
I've said this a million times and I'll say it again, that I do NOT want to discourge people from traveling. I want people to travel the world. I do it and will continue to do it. I just want to give people the information they need to stay safe. As stated above, the exchange ideas.
As for your stay home comment if "you're that scared"....that makes no sense. Is this what you "think" I want people to do? Is there no middle ground? Can't people travel AND be security conscious?
But hey if you would rather ignore the problem go ahead bud. I'm here to help those who would want to listen and exchange ideas rather than argue with those who try to ignore problems and think "it will never happen to me." I wish you luck in your future travels and hope you don't have to learn the hard way.
| Ginirover wrote: | | The same goes for the hotel security you seem to want. Ofcourse this is not possible in 99.5 % (or more) hotels in the world - how would you organize that ? And if you make ALL the hotels terrorist-proof ? What will you do with the shopping malls ? The restaurants ? The big festivities ? |
Not possible? Have you recognized all the new security measures in place after the September 11th attacks, not just in the US but worldwide. Prior to 9/11 there were nae sayer, like yourself, who said that implementing extreme security measure was impossible and too expensive. The attacks happened and now these same "impossible" measures are in place. Amazing how that works. No body enjoys more security, but the world is becoming a more dangerous place because of global crime and transnational terrorism, therefore, we as travelers have to change too.
| Ginirover wrote: | | Just realize that the world is not a perfect place and that you have to be careful in what you do, but don't let that lead you to being scared all the time in all places ! |
I understand that the world is not perfect but I also don't ignore the problems that are happening and view the world thru peach colored glasses either. Lastly, something else I've mentioned over and over, I don't want people to be scared I want them to be informed and travel the world safely. _________________ Al |
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